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Cooking Up a Lie - The AGA Affair - Part 1

The issue around the mysterious burn marks on Nevill Bamber's back has now been sitting on the desk of the case officer at the CCRC for two years.
The Whitehouse Farm Aga

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In March 2021 Bamber and his campaign team submitted eight grounds of evidence to the CCRC for them to investigate and push forward to the Court of Appeal. These issues were the result of ten years of investigation by Bamber and his team. A further two were added in 2022. Based on the discovery of 350K pages of documents unavailable at trial they reveal a completely different narrative to the version which resulted in his imprisonment.

The Commission have now been presented with a digital store of material which touches on 8 focussed grounds of Appeal. For the detractors it should be made clear that this is not a submission based on Jeremy Bamber simply reasserting his innocence.  This is instead a very detailed and focussed application based on material which has been uncovered since 2011.

The audit trail now uncovered raises very serious questions over withheld evidence, misleading of the jury, interference with the crime scene, the movement of key evidence, altered phone records and admitted destruction of original exhibits.

Mark Newby, Jeremy Bambers Solicitor, March 2021

Of the further two issues added in 2022, one involved the AGA in the kitchen at White House Farm.

If there had to be something hot in the house, the only thing that was hot was the hot AGA.

And we can see it because we've got the temperature gauge on the AGA, which you can see in a photograph.

It must have come from there. But it is amazing that between Yvonne and myself over a 10 year period, we've managed to discover what we discovered.

Jeremy Bamber, 2022

Saturday 9th April 2022, I was in Sussex dropping off the dogs before a family holiday. A couple of weeks before I’d been talking to Jeremy and Yvonne from the campaign team about the issues around the three burn marks on Nevill Bamber’s back and how they had never been explained away properly.

Yvonne and Jeremy had a theory that they were caused by the handles on the AGA oven. In the crime scene photos these handles appear around 18 inches or so from Nevill Bamber’s body and were the only thing in the kitchen that could have caused these burns.

They were ‘sold’ in the trial that they were caused by Bamber heating up the barrel of the gun and burning his father in a kind of sadistic ritual.

Whilst my mother-in-law was heating the kettle for a cup of tea I looked at the hot plate on the AGA and then the handles and realised they looked similar.

Surely not.

It couldn’t be the same oven could it?

The AGA at Whitehouse Farm was a fifty year old model. What were the odds?

I quickly checked my iPhone for the crime scene photo, I zoomed in and it looked identical. I grabbed a tape measure, took some photos of the handles and then sent them to Yvonne and Philip Boyce the forensic ballistic expert who has been working on the Bamber case for years.

He came back within minutes and said, yes it’s the same AGA as at Whitehouse farm.

Filming Philip Walker, West Sussex

Within a few weeks I returned with Philip Walker from the campaign team to conduct a rudimentary experiment with a pigs leg. From our findings we then sent more information to Boyce( and then a couple of months later we all returned to conduct the experiment.

Why is This Important ?

In Carol Ann Lee’s book - she interviews Professor Peter Vanezis OBE (MB, ChB, DMJ(Path), MD, PhD, FRCPath, FRCP(Glasg.), FFFLM), the pathologist on the case.

Even now after 28 years, Vanezis OBE (MB, ChB, DMJ(Path), MD, PhD, FRCPath, FRCP(Glasg.), FFFLM) still thinks it’s the rifle,

What Could have Happened ?

The Doc Maker lying up against the AGA handles - I did not rest my neck on the handles because they were too hot so the position is not accurate but I needed to see if my body had contact with all three points.

Have you ever tried to lift a deadweight? My 85 year old father fell over a couple of years ago , significantly lighter and shorter than a fit 6ft 4” Nevill Bamber. It was impossible to pick him up, let alone try and manoeuvre him.

Nevill was found in a very unusual position. I defy anyone to think he wasn’t manipulated into this position.

If you look at the photo you will see Nevill is not only precariously balanced on the edge of the chair but the chair behind him is then angled to the dishwasher with a cushion jammed between the leg of the chair and dishwasher to prevent the entire ‘structure’ collapsing. There is NO WAY this could have been done by a single person. (circle marked ‘B’ in the image below)

If you use the argument that the police re-created this because they toppled him over on entering the premises then why do they state in all their statements that all they did was knock over “a couple of stools ” ? As per Jeannette MacDiarmid in the film above (by the way she didn’t interview all the firearms team despite her claim ).

There’s never any mention of the firearms team knocking Nevill from this position. Even if he was in this position he would most certainly have toppled over from this precarious position if the police ‘collapsed’ the structure supporting his weight.

Are we to believe 7 firearms officers, burst through this door, tip-toed around the chairs and didn’t knock him from this position? They would have all had to jump over the chairs to proceed through the kitchen. Assuming they could squeeze through the gap between the door and ‘chair A’. Because nothing was moved remember.

It’s always been taken for granted that this was the position he was found in. If it was 5ft 7” Sheila how could she do both manhandle him and manipulate the chair legs accordingly?

This doesn’t appear in any statement.

Figure 1. The Kitchen

A. The crime scene photo shows two chairs blocking their entrance (A in figure 1 above) . If these were not moved (as claimed) then how did they get past a 4” gap between the door and the wall.

It’s just not possible.

B. Also look closely under Nevill’s body you can see a pair of trousers used to soak up the blood. Why would Bamber do this? The blood would have been present before the trousers were placed over the top. If Nevill had been lying on the floor, his head towards the doorway, his head injuries would have created this pool of blood. In another photo you can see he has his bodyweight on the trousers, so they were not slipped under him afterwards, they were placed over the blood pool and then he was manoeuvred into position.

Are we really to believe Bamber killed his father, pulled the trousers drying above the AGA down to lay over the blood pool before impossibly manhandling his 6ft 4” father into this precarious position? At 3 am or thereabouts, in his wetsuit before cycling home?

Trousers placed over the top of the blood pool on the kitchen floor.

You know, and obviously dad was moved from in front of the cooker. Well, they couldn't leave him in front of the cooker after they'd done their exercise, because they were probably worried about his pyjama top catching light against the red hot cooker. So they positioned him near to where they found him.

Jeremy Bamber

Okay, so where’s the evidence?

Well Essex, wheres the crime scene video? That could potentially clear all this up.

Why Would the Police do this?

If we take the view it wasn’t Jeremy or Sheila and Nevill was moved into this position from lying up against the AGA, then the question is why?

Nevill died leaning against the AGA in a foetal position. His neck wedged against the handles of the AGA. If he died circa 0330 am he would have been in this position until at the earliest the time the police entered the farmhouse or at the latest sometime before the crime scene photos were taken. So if we assume the earliest that is around 4 hours. The handles are hot. You cannot touch them for more than a few seconds without the heat becoming unbearable. over a period of hours I am ‘assuming’ they would cause third degree burns on a 62 years olds skin.

Remember Vanezis OBE (MB, ChB, DMJ(Path), MD, PhD, FRCPath, FRCP(Glasg.), FFFLM), said the skin will burn even through thick clothing. It’s hard to argue with a pathologist with all those letters after his name right?

The Measurements

The distance between the marks on Nevills back is 2” . The distance between the centre of the top oval handle and the small round pull handle is also 2 inches. When laying against the Aga and my neck marked with a felt-tip pen the distance measured was an inch longer - 3”. An inch too far.

Neck bent forward, 3 inches between the two end burn marks, not exact placing but an inch can be found by extending the neck forward.

So that put paid to that.

But then taking a look at the picture of the burns on Nevill you can see the photo was taken with his neck straight (it would have been taken on the mortuary table), not with his neck pushed forward as he would most likely have been if wedged into the handles like I was. When I straightened my neck I lost an inch.

Neck straight (like it would have been on the mortuary table) and we get 2” as per the AGA handles.

So now the measurements match up. Would a crazed Bamber (or Sheila) burning their father with the rifle manage to get the exact same measurements as the distance between the 3 AGA handles?

Of course they wouldn’t.

The Shape

Next step was to look at the shape of the burns. The forensic test conducted on ITV by Phillip Boyce in 2011 showing the burn marks made on pig-skin without the sound moderator on, (with the moderator on this would never reach the temperature required to cause any burns) look nothing like the burn marks on Nevill’s back, they are all uniform in shape and size for a start . Also they are distinctly darker (as per Vanezis OBE (MB, ChB, DMJ(Path), MD, PhD, FRCPath, FRCP(Glasg.), FFFLM) who states above that post-mortem the burns would be darker. I would imagine that an object would need to be held for some time at a consistent temperature to get the kind of deep burns visible.

How could you maintain uniform consistent burn marks without repeatedly taking the rifle barrel on and off the hot plate between burning each mark?

Nonsense right?

Results of the burns test with ITV show.

BURN MARK 1 (The highest up the neck)

So I then took the hi resolution photos and zoomed in specifically to the top burn (this would be the burn at the top of Nevills neck / middle of his shoulder). When you do this you can see the shape has sharp edges. A rounded barrel does not leave straight line burn marks as evident in Boyces photo above.

It could not create two distinctly straight burn marks at around a 109º angle.

Then look at the shape of the handle (Bearing in mind this is NOT the White House Farm Aga but the EXACT same model). Thats’s a pretty good match. Also bear in mind what Vanezis OBE (MB, ChB, DMJ(Path), MD, PhD, FRCPath, FRCP(Glasg.), FFFLM), said in an interview above - ‘They’re all fairly circular’.

Not many obtuse angles of 109º in a circle are there? The only obtuseness here is coming from Vanezis ,OBE (MB, ChB, DMJ(Path), MD, PhD, FRCPath, FRCP(Glasg.), FFFLM)’,

I don’t think you can read too much into the slight difference in the shape of the marks either. They’re all fairly circular, skin is not totally flat, and the way you hold something is not always the same. My guess is that those marks are the effect of the muzzle of the rifle being prodded against Nevill’s top whilst he was alive.

To the right side of the image the burn is darker, would this not be true of the pointy end of the handle was more acute to the skin, the lighter area of the burn caused by the convex of the handle (it is not a piece of flat metal).

Overlaying the photo of the handle to the burn mark the measurements add up.

Again you can see a perfect lining up.

And finally extending the handle over the burn they seem to align. More so than the burns from a rifle barrel right?

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So what does this all mean?

It shows the burns were caused by Nevill Bamber lying against the Aga for several hours before the police arrived. When they did arrive he was physically moved by the police into the position he was found in.

The crime scene photos therefore are not an accurate version of the events of the night. If this is true then surely none of the crime scene photos should have been admissible.

You know, you think yourself, well, even if you were to stick the sound moderator or the end of the barrel of the gun into the AGA to go red hot, by the time you'd run upstairs and started prodding that, it wouldn't have caused similar burns, because all the burns are very equally ‘burny’. If that's I don't think that's the technical term.

But whatever the technical term is, you know, the amount of burning on each of the burns is consistent.

Well, you know, I've done foundry work at school where I've made pokers and whatever, you make when you're at school in the foundry doing those things. And the redness of the heat dissipates out of the metal very quickly.

And so if you had a reduction of the the severity of the burns, from one to the other, then you could imagine that it would come from that.

But why would you? Why would you?

Who would have ever thought of making a gun more dangerous by making the barrel hot?

And the reason the police and the pathologists didn't, you know, use that was because they needed something to suggest that dad was upstairs for a start. And the sound moderator was on the gun. So that was another thing they could say, ‘Oh, well, that was why’.

But then, if that was the case, and it was red hot, how did they, you know, to the point of being able to burn, how were they able to get anything from any blood?

Doc Maker: The blood would have been burned to a cinder.

Jeremy Bamber: That's another thing, on the one hand, they want to be able to get all these enzymes from the blood sample, and yet the enzymes are unstable at above sort of 70/75 degrees centigrade, and they just disappear.

So if you've got the sound moderator red hot to the point of where it's going to burn the skin, when you put someone that it would be impossible to have any blood type problems.

You can't have it both ways.

And I think that's, that's another point that I've only just thought of now speaking to you. But it's, it's significant, because not only of course, have we got the same enzyme profile as Robert Bouflour and Sheila, but you've also got an enzyme profile that according to them, is in the same sound moderator of David Boutflour months later.

And quite often in the case, in this case, they've wanted it both ways.

The Doc Maker: Yeah, because that's the only way the case figures out. Because it's a lie.

This then shows Essex Police lied about the crime scene not being interfered with. It means they lied to the Stokenchurch enquiry and that the judges in the 2002 Appeal should have quashed the conviction.

They specifically state in their judgement on point 248

Note the line,

The photographs are of excellent quality and accurately depict the scene of the crime.

So what does it mean to the appeal decision if it can now be proven that they don't? Does it mean the conviction should be quashed?

And as for 249,

Mr Bamber’s body lay across an overturned chair that can have had nothing to do with the actions of the TFG (The Firearms Group).

Maybe it wasn’t the TFG - but what about the officers who came in afterwards? Couldn’t this be considered a case of gas lighting ? Look over here, not over there.

What does the crime scene video that was never made show?

GO TO PART 2

HMP Wakefield

A CCRC committee is scheduled to make a decision on Jeremy’s appeal in March 2025.

Jeremy Bamber has maintained his innocence for the entire 39 years he has spent in prison.

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